A Brilliant String of Thoughts from Norm Macdonald (and some okay ones from me)

I was scrolling through Twitter when I came across one of Norm Macdonald’s tweets. Here’s Norm’s tweet (which I will discuss a bit later on):

I love Norm and have spent hours listening to his stand up, podcast, and other media on YouTube, but I hadn’t been followed him on Twitter. I followed his page immediately after reading this tweet, and headed over to see what else he had been saying. I was pleasantly surprised to find a long sequence of tweets related to the Trump presidency and our current state of affairs, many of which I found to be incredibly insightful.

I’ll share Norm’s tweets now with a few thoughts of my own between each. My thoughts are my own, not Norm’s. I don’t know what takes place inside his head:

This brings the recent outrage over General John Kelly’s Civil War remarks to mind. Did Robert E. Lee believe he was doing the right thing in leading the Confederate Army? Did he weigh the options and determine that the closest he could come to righteousness would be to orchestrate a military strategy with the aim of secession from the United States of America?

Did he believe slavery was wrong? Does believing slavery is wrong 1861 Virginia, USA mean the best and most moral course of action is to drop what you are doing and become an abolitionist?

Do you think eating meat, watching porn, applauding sex reassignment surgery, and posting your political views on social media will be considered ethically acceptable forever?

The healthy and unhealthy are objectively healthy and unhealthy? Unlike, say, Republicans and Democrats, neither of which are possible to define? Republicans and Democrats are not that far off in terms of agenda? The healthy and unhealthy cannot empathize with each other for legitimate reasons while enraged political opponents are just being silly?

I was so excited for the 2016 election. Having officially made the conversion from Socialist to Libertarian, I was ready for politics and to promote my newly found truth. My positions were, in my mind, well-thought-out, persuasive, and well-intentioned.

But so many who are now involved in politics are incapable of or uninterested in rational and productive political discourse. So few of those participating have taken the time to think the issues through, to have their views challenged, and to explore new ideas. The dividing line, as opposed to individual property rights vs. collective property rights, originalist Constitutionalism vs. living documentism, or body ownership vs. legislated morality, is often Trump vs. Anti-Trump. And that is not fun.

I did not plan on defending President Trump when he won the election. I figured I would remain in the middle of the political landscape as I had been in the latter years of the Obama presidency.

But the behavior of Trump’s loudest and harshest detractors has been so despicable and so revealing that I find myself defending Trump more than criticizing him. I do not want Trump to win, but I do want those who hate him so belligerently to lose. I cannot imagine them having power over me.

Those who admonish Weinstein do not impress me. Are they perfect people?

And it’s not like anyone is taking the “maybe Weinstein isn’t an animal” position. People can say the most horrendous things about him without ever having to worry about their words being challenged. Taking something other than a pro-unequivocal-extreme-condemnation position is viewed as being pro-rape.

I wrote this within a few days of Trump’s election victory last year. It’s about challenging the Left’s self-proclaimed ownership of love.

Love Trumps Hate was always a hilarious lie.

Norm switches gears here.

I do not see Trump as simply a celebrity, though perhaps I should. I see him as someone who has been involved in politics as an activist and commenter for a very long time.

On the other hand, if Trump decides to run for re-election, I believe the Democrats would be insane not to run a celebrity against him. Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson would demolish Trump. Kamala Harris would be annihilated by him.

Composing a fantastic album/compelling motion picture/brilliant comedy special is hard? Sex tapes and public intoxication are easy?

The moment a celebrity dies, another is beyond ready to take its place?

Is the computer our collective consciousness online?

Ken Bone, Anthony Scaramucci, James Comey, Sean Spicer, Milo Yiannopoulos, Linda Sarsour, Sheriff David Clarke, Joy Reid, Tomi Lahren, Brian Stelter, Maxine Waters, Steve Bannon, John Podesta, Vladimir Putin, Jack Posobiec…

We need virtue. Fame is not virtue. Many are pursuing fame without ever considering virtue.

“Swiss Candidate” would be too boring to attract an audience. That’s for sure.

Norm said he heard about this a number of years ago. A number of years ago, I would not have been perceptive enough to be frightened by this idea.

There was a South Park episode that aired during Britney Spears’ “meltdown” years ago. The twist ending was that society needed to coerce celebrities into suicide via overwhelming paparazzi activity in order to reap a successful harvest. This tweet made me think of that.

Keith Olbermann, Stephen Colbert, and Rachel Maddow will be worse off when Trump is out of office.

This also makes me think of the hundreds, thousands, and tens of thousands of people who show up to protest small scale “Nazi” marches. What would these people do if there weren’t a handful of outright racists for them to scold? Who would they have to look down upon?

It makes me think of racism hoaxers too. Who benefits from Trump supporters spray-painting swastikas and racial slurs on public grounds? Racists or race-baiters? Trump lovers or Trump haters?

Cheers to Norm Macdonald for sharing his nuanced and wise thoughts. And I hope mine meant something to you.


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A Brilliant String of Thoughts from Norm Macdonald (and some okay ones from me)

4 thoughts on “A Brilliant String of Thoughts from Norm Macdonald (and some okay ones from me)

  1. I have to tell you that I found most of Norm MacDonald’s tweets bordering on stupid.

    “For those fervent believers in presentism, remember this. What you yourself now do casually will one day be seen as the sin it is.”
    As the sin it is? Judgmental much?

    “Another distressing side effect of the Trump Presidency is that celebrities see they can gain actual power.”
    George Washington was a celebrity. Andrew Jackson was a celebrity. Teddy Roosevelt was a celebrity. Herbert Hoover was a celebrity. Dwight Eisenhower was a celebrity. John F. Kennedy was a celebrity. Ronald Reagan was a celebrity. Norm might want to think before he tweets.

    “Celebrities are most often celebrities because they did not want to work hard.”
    Let’s look at a few celebrities over the history of the USA and see about their work ethic, shall we? Who shall we start with? Ben Franklin? Thomas Paine? George Washington? Thomas Jefferson? James Madison? Daniel Boone? John Astor? Andrew Jackson? Sam Houston? David Crockett? Abraham Lincoln? Andrew Carnegie? Teddy Roosevelt? Babe Ruth? Charles Lindbergh? Harry Houdini? Charlie Chaplin? Which ones didn’t want to work hard?

    Does Norm have any idea what the word “celebrity” means? It means a person who is celebrated – renowned. Which includes everyone I just listed, and many, many more.

    “President Trump has created more celebrities than any President ever.”
    Pretty sure that Franklin Delano Roosevelt probably actually holds the record for a President creating celebrities. All those war heroes who were paraded in front of the American public along with celebrities from the entertainment and sports industries in order to sell war bonds. How many Americans would have known who Dick Bong or Tommy McGuire or Ira Hayes or Audie Murphy were without those tours?


    1. When he says “as the sin it is,” I think he’s being a little tongue-in-cheek. He’s kind of just saying that nobody’s perfect, and he’s probably right that some things we do today will be seen as unthinkable tomorrow, for better or worse. He’s not claiming to be the arbiter of morality. I’m sure he’d acknowledge that some things that he does are “sin,” and he doesn’t know it.

      When Norm says celebrity, I think he’s referring to the modern concept of “celebrity” as in someone who is famous just for being famous. George Washington was famous for founding the country and as a war hero. He wasn’t famous for being on a reality TV show or famous for living a lavish lifestyle. I think there is a huge difference.

      When he says celebrities who didn’t want to work hard, again, I think he is referring to modern-day celebrities like Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, and reality TV stars. Instead of being famous by being great magicians or advocates for particular policies, they released sex tapes and just behave in odd ways.

      I don’t know the four people you just mentioned. But I think, just based on the internet’s reach and the current 24-hour Trump news cycle, that Trump is creating an incredible amount of celebrities. If he’s in second place to FDR, I don’t really think it alters Norm’s point.


  2. allock says:

    You don’t think Patreaus is a celebrity? Derek Jeter? Norm is just demonstrating that he doesn’t have a clue. And if you don’t know the 4 names I mentioned? That’s a sad statement. They were all far more celebrated than the people you named (some of whom aren’t actually celebrities at all).


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